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For pvp fights there's one tactic i've used and seen work well..and it might fit in nicely IC wise with the elven way of fighting..

basicly it's: taking up a strategic position, somewhere out of plain sight of the enemy force..
There the warriors, druids, priests, whatever we have goes into shadowmeld..preferably inside a bush or something
then the hunters, maybe a druid for healing or something go and skirmish a bit, soon they'll attract a group that just chases them..probably not the 'whole' group as the skirmish group will only have to consist of 3-4 people..

they run (horde chases..seen it happen before) hunters run straight through our hidden force..when horde arrives..simply ambush them and slaughter them all

in other words..i love shadowmeld..and you can do some very nice tactics with it..it's not as good as stealth..but if you hide in a bush or something the chance that they'll see you is -very- small

I like this idea!

Basically, taking advantage of our racial abilities, and turning the enemy's overconfidence against him...

So, one or two players go out, get the attention of a larger (but not too large group) and then turn tail and run, drawing them in to an ambush of rogues, warriors, hunters and druids.

We need to think about how to test this out.

Even though I by no accounts like your methods, I have to admit they might work, Galadiel. Not much honor to be gained here, but for deep forays into enemy lands this might come in very handy indeed. I concur with the Keeper that some test runs in the immediate future would be a sound idea.

This post has been edited by Sentalla on Jul 8 2005, 11:33 AM

So who gets used as horde bait then hmm? They would havely to either highly skilled and brave or utterly foolhardy and stupendousy lucky.

*coughs*

What? Why is everyone looking at me?!

Maybe not much honor..but all is fair in love and war

and Arrina..that bait are ussually the hunters or anything with ranged attacks...so buckle up..paint a bullseye on you and do that great NE dance in front of them..that should get some attention

Okay, now I am horde bait... you do realise a mage or another hunter will tear me to shreds the moment I turn to run back... I have tried it before you know.. but I will do as the circle commands... (oh the joy)

Perhaps it might be most appropriate for a warrior to lead the pursuit back in on the ambush... their heavier armour and greater ability to survive the beating they will receive from mages and hunters would be invaluable.

using distractions/cow-bait is never a good idea but its up to Sentalla to decide tactics... a Team of two hunter could work I think... slight snag with that, the only other besides me is Keeper Taiev <blinks> Somehow not a good idea to use your leader as bait.

I am prepared to run any risk that my Sisters and brothers are... within reason of course.

*imagines herself taunting enemies, and then running away* Preposterous.
And "Pah!" to your fairness, Galadiel!

In any case, whoever it is that will be used as bait need not run very far. As the ambushers are all shadowmelded I suppose the backup could be just around the corner.
I'd say either a hunter with their "i can run faster than you"-capabilities or a warrior with their "hit me, see if I care"-capabilities.
Keep up the discussion if you want, but in my opinion that part of it is not really that important right now.

Galadiel, I'd like to call upon you as instructor for some training in this tactic as part of my training drills, if you feel up to it.

This post has been edited by Sentalla on Jul 8 2005, 01:42 PM

Sister, while a Huntress can run for a year and a day a barely break a sweat, you must remember that when we use the Aspect of the Cheetah, we also share her vulnerability... the slightest injury and we must slow down substantially.

I believe that a warrior, well armoured would stand a better chance, perhaps aided by the Nifty Stopwatch I have heard my Goblin Contacts discussing, or perhaps a Swiftness Potion?

have you considered a rogue with a bow hmm? They could fire at one, and sprint off... just a thought.

I'd be honored Sentalla

just some points:

Warriors as bait? forget it: you can have an armor value of 30k..magic isn't affected by that..only physical damage is reduced..and warriors need to run all the way up to the enemy before they can even start scratching them..and then run all the way back being in range of -all- ranged abilities they have..good luck with that..not gonna happen

hunters..you can send your pets in..they'll die..but i'll pay for the meat if you like..they got some nice ranged attacks..scatter shot or whatever goodie that is, all those things hurt while they can remain out of range of -most- of the ranged abilities of them..

i'm not saying the hunters should fight a small battle there..just run in..shoot some shots hit a bunch of them then run like hell..a hunter with swiftness potion has alot more chance then a warrior with one..

when i used this tactic i was using Ando as bait..and believe me it worked wonderwell, just snuck from behind shoot off a flamestrike and you'd have 6-10 hordies run after me..just blink and run back by the time the first catched me they'd run into a group of 5 others..warriors and priests mostly, we were still outnumbered but with the element of totat surprise we killed them all before they could pull a wtf face..

That's a point, I suppose, Keeper. I'd forgotten just how vulnerable hunters can be.
That stopwatch looks mighty interesting, to be sure...hmm...

[edit: oops, Gala made a post before I managed to post:]
I suggest we simply take your word for it at present, see how it plays out in actuality. If the bait should happen to die, well, it's just a short run from the graveyard...

In either case...is it really that important? I've no intention of roleplaying PvP to such an extent as to say "one fight = one death". I MIGHT in some instances, but that's not to say a single death is going to deter me.

This post has been edited by Sentalla on Jul 8 2005, 03:15 PM