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 Time to wake up!, Request: one SE revival!
Ashtear
Posted: Jul 24 2008, 06:56 PM


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Righto, I'm one of those annoying little roddents that's not going to take this "inactive-ness" in any way. So expect lots of nagging on my part. And I'd love for some people to back me up on this.

SE is a great RP guild that is now being left to die.

The officers and our guild leader *bows to Taiev* have moved on to RL and/or AoC. Many other members have also lost interest in WoW.

So leave it as it is till someone decides to return? I don't think so. There will be nothing left to return to if SE is left to wallow about in this state.

There's no need for it, really. There are plenty of people around with fresh ideas for storylines and events, but no officers around for it to matter. It's time for a change.

This isn't a hijacking plot. I'm not saying "out with the old in with the new". I like the old, thank you. But we need more officers that are active and someone to "oversee" the guild.

SE has been pretty inactive before endgame even started, there was no need for that and there's certainly no need for this whole "byebye" thing now.

Time to get kick things in to gear with some fresh faces of the silliest people around and put SE back on the AD RP map.

I know at least of a couple of people who could pull this off successfully and keep Taiev's legacy going(and not destroying it).

Are you going to leave behind an active guild of the best night elf RPers around or the corpse of something that once was?



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Erynia
Posted: Jul 24 2008, 07:10 PM


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QUOTE (Ashtear @ Jul 24 2008, 06:56 PM)
Righto, I'm one of those annoying little roddents that's not going to take this "inactive-ness" in any way. So expect lots of nagging on my part. And I'd love for some people to back me up on this.

SE is a great RP guild that is now being left to die.

The officers and our guild leader *bows to Taiev* have moved on to RL and/or AoC. Many other members have also lost interest in WoW.

So leave it as it is till someone decides to return? I don't think so. There will be nothing left to return to if SE is left to wallow about in this state.

There's no need for it, really. There are plenty of people around with fresh ideas for storylines and events, but no officers around for it to matter. It's time for a change.

This isn't a hijacking plot. I'm not saying "out with the old in with the new". I like the old, thank you. But we need more officers that are active and someone to "oversee" the guild.

SE has been pretty inactive before endgame even started, there was no need for that and there's certainly no need for this whole "byebye" thing now.

Time to get kick things in to gear with some fresh faces of the silliest people around and put SE back on the AD RP map.

I know at least of a couple of people who could pull this off successfully and keep Taiev's legacy going(and not destroying it).

Are you going to leave behind an active guild of the best night elf RPers around or the corpse of something that once was?

There's little I can add to this except /signed

I've made my position and thoughts clear to Taiev

/Eryn



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Lekilor
Posted: Jul 24 2008, 07:28 PM


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As long as there are people who wish to continue the guild, and the RP theme it always represented, letting it just fall apart is an atrocity.

Taiev left and doesn't want to continue running the guild after three years? No problem, it is fully understandable. But, if I'm not mistaken, we are still intact as a community, both IC and OOC. This means that we can still plan new storylines and events - obviously nothing as big as Endgame, but rather something small as the Moonrise, the Day of the Dead, and the like. As an IC political faction, we may continue to harbor members who still preserve their Kaldorei views and are willing to stand for them, but are unwilling to ally with the Legacy of Maiev. And I don't care if we do that under the name "Silvereye" or some new name - as long as that happens.

In all honesty however, chances to see Silvereye being reborn like that are nowhere near high. Running a successful RP guild takes a lot of dedication. But as long as someone tries, I will support it - don't expect miracles from me, but it will be so.



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Gilthas
Posted: Jul 24 2008, 08:02 PM


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QUOTE (Ashtear @ Jul 24 2008, 07:56 PM)
... the corpse of something that once was?

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Ashtear
Posted: Jul 24 2008, 08:07 PM


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*giggle-snorts*



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Aerandul Nightwarden
Posted: Jul 24 2008, 11:11 PM


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I think the best bet is to start a new guild, in a similar or new direction. Silvereye is (was?) more than just an RP guild, and I think I'd not see it anything the same without Taiev at the helm.

Don't jump from RP, but perhaps the metaphorical roadkill would rather die peacefully than suffer the agony of CPR wink.gif



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Acrona
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 08:38 AM


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I know I have not been actively part of SE for quite some time now, but agree with Aerandul here. We should leave it here. It was a lovely run at it, but seriously, stop, move on with lovely memories.

I do not think disbanding the Silvereye was an atrocity, or that Taiev is some kind of a monster that wants to spoil your game. Taiev and many other officers in the long run have treated us well with their devotion. I think it is a good time to let Silvereye rest, before we have more years of inactivity behind us than years of thrilling activities. There have been attempts to restore interest in the guild, but without much success. Change the leadership? I feel SE would not be the same.

Taiev could have just /gkicked everyone. It did not happen. The Endgame stopped things in the way they should - with feeling and something to remember. I prefer this compared to having the guild slowly 'fade' away.



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Aldaron
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:20 AM


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*nods to Acrona*

Things has ended the way they should. The Circle of the Silvereye has been put to rest IC as well as OOC.
I feel it is a right that Taiev deserves for what she's done for the guild for 3 years.

You desire RP? well, it's not gone with Taiev or the others that left.
You desire small events? good, you can plan them
You desire big events? I'm sure you can create things even bigger than Endgame, Dragonslave and Escalation. (think big!)

There are a lot of good minds out there willing and able to create great RP experiences. Just seek them out and build your dream.
If this is your intent, and is a noble one, it is not mandatory to have a silvereye tag over the head to do great RP.
Go and give shape to your vision. As a spinoff of the Silvereye, with your roots in the Circle, if you like. Or as a parallel entity or an antagonist one, why not?

I know you, you have great stories to tell, I'm sure. Find others that share your vision and bring it to life. wink.gif
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Ashtear
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:26 AM


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QUOTE (Acrona @ Jul 25 2008, 08:38 AM)

I do not think disbanding the Silvereye was an atrocity, or that Taiev is some kind of a monster that wants to spoil your game. Taiev and many other officers in the long run have treated us well with their devotion. I think it is a good time to let Silvereye rest, before we have more years of inactivity behind us than years of thrilling activities. There have been attempts to restore interest in the guild, but without much success. Change the leadership? I feel SE would not be the same.


@Aerandul, Acrona and Aldaron

Excuse me? I never said anything of the sort.

SE has not been disbanded.

Taiev still is and probably always will be the guild leader.

And this is coming from people who have moved on from WoW. Why won't you give others a chance? No one is out to destroy SE here. Not the community and not the guild.

However, it seems here that anyone who's not from the "old crew" that moved on is evil for wanting to continue. Is this some controle issue here? You're no longer interested in WoW, so others may not continue the RP/event part of SE either?

Isn't that just a 'little' narrow minded?



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Aerandul Nightwarden
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:41 AM


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Actually, at least two of us are back in WoW, I'm already involved in a couple of Storylines and have an event or two in the making. Sure, I left SE long ago, for IC reasons, and never got the chance to go back, but I've followed it ever since I joined, without fail. If it seems narrow minded, then I'm narrow minded, but as someone who has seen the course of th Silvereye, I do not recommend and would go so far as to actively disagree with any revival of the guild.

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So, when the Endgame event series is over, Silvereye will be going into hiatus, and I will be focussing myself on other things.

What does hiatus mean? Essentially it means that the guild will become inactive and there will be no more planned events.

I do not plan to disband the guild, since the future may bring a return to WoW. However, having spent three years on the guild I want to be the person who decides how it ends. A little selfish, but I think I can be permitted a little selfishness.

I have discussed this with the guild officers, and this is not up for discussion.


Perhaps it makes me look like a fanboi, but Taiev has supported and dragged the guild through the years, and I think in this case yes, she is permitted a little selfishness. This isn't an attack on anyone, simply me stating that the Silvereye should be left quietly.

Edit: Aldaron's got the right ideas in his head, and I think if anything would make sense and work, it would be something as he suggested.

Oh, and Acrona was speaking metaphorically, I don't believe she was attempting to quote anything you said about atrocities or whatnot.



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Acrona
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 09:47 AM


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My words were was not directed only at yours Ashtear, but yours, Erynia's and Lekilor's.

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However, it seems here that anyone who's not from the "old crew" that moved on is evil for wanting to continue.

Quoting yourself for my reply: Excuse me? I never said anything of the sort.

I find you rather hard to reason calmly with, Ashtear. You seem to get very quick rather aggressive with your words.



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Lekilor
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 10:05 AM


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Well, well... I already get a bad feeling from this. We all want essentially the same thing, and we already start fighting.

Just to clarify, none of my post was a personal attack on Taiev or even the officers. All I expressed is a desire for the community to stay intact, IC and OOC. Period.



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Ashtear
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:21 AM


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Same goes for you Acrona. I tend to fight fire with fire. It's not a good thing, but that's just my personality.

Don't expect me to always take the path of least resistance. Which is something I often do.

I do not agree with the way things are going and if I see need to snipe at comments that "tell me"(however generally aimed they might be) to calmly let it go, I will.

When I go for something I care about I give it my all.

And yes, I'm also selfish.




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Acrona
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 11:58 AM


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I should have been a little clearier with my first post. For instance, I did not mean you specifically suggested changing the leadership Ashtear, I meant I would not feel the guild to be the same Silvereye if the leadership was changed. I heard there have been requests to obtain leadership from Taiev. But even so I am not throwing around comments that scorn on people, like: "Isn't that just a 'little' narrow minded?" that suggests some of us actually think like this: "However, it seems here that anyone who's not from the "old crew" that moved on is evil for wanting to continue. Is this some controle issue here? You're no longer interested in WoW, so others may not continue the RP/event part of SE either?"

For me personally, it is not about having an urge to control. When it comes to roleplay, I enjoy 'giving' as much as 'taking'. (I am not saying you enjoy 'taking' more than 'giving'.) In my case it is about respecting the guild that Taiev and other long-time officers created. While a guild is about group-effort, I think they worked the most for the guild all this time, so I think it is rightful they get to decide the fate of the Silvereye.



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Ashtear
Posted: Jul 25 2008, 01:10 PM


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A question is a question and not a suggestion. A simple "no" is easy enough.

However not everyone shares the same view of things. Your opinion is fine, but I do not agree and I'm not going to let it go.

There is no way you can clear it up for me or convince me to let it be.

Who is listening and who is not? Only comments are given and no questions asked... No answers either for that matter.

I've asked for backup, I'm not interested in reasons why I should leave it alone. I've read the Q&A many times over already.

Again, I do not agree and am not going to. So please don't bother to try and convince me or anyone else that would like to go on.

I see far more benefit in something that is actually active, for new members aswell as old. And I'm working for a chance for it to be shown. For it to be something that would involve everyone wether they still play WoW or not.



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